is mitt romney in pennsylvania because he thinks there's a chance? how important is winning pennsylvania to him? >> pennsylvania is one of several battleground states in this election and it comes town really to a handful of states including ohio and florida and of course pennsylvania and virginia. the undecided vote so far is very small, but let's keep in mind at this stage ronald reagan in 1980 was running about five points behind jimmy carter. by mid october, he was 13 points behind and yet he won the election by nine points. >> what do you think will be that catalyst for swinging things in mitt romney's favor? >> a strong debate by mitt romney. there are three of them coming up. a misstep by the president. some sort of international incident to thinks that might come out about benghazi, et cetera. i mean, six weeks is a very long time. we have 39 days to go. >> it's fascinating how much pressure seems to be on mitt romney including put by himself and his own camp on these debates. we haven't necessarily seen him perform well under pressure, when